81. [cen] Local Mythology & Wildlife a mythology that precluded them from eating certain = animals, like snakes, andother creatures. I am wondering if anyone else = working in Vietnam has http://www.undp.org.vn/mlist/cen/102000/post20.htm

UN UNDP Forum CEN ... Recent messages From: Dai Peters dpeters@fpt.vn Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:25:11 +0700 Subject: Mailing List: CEN submitted to cen by "Dai Peters" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'll try this one again also... - Original Message - From: Dai Peters To: CEN Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 1:54 PM Dear Cen Members: My recent reading of Jeffrey McNeely's and Paul Spencer Sochaczewski's = 1988 book, "Soul of the Tiger: Searching for Nature's Answers in = Southeast Asia," has left me wondering about the link between local = legends and taboos, and the protection of fauna and flora. As you will = see below, at least one ethnic minority group in the Central Highlands = is reputed to have once embraced a mythology that precluded them from = eating certain animals, like snakes, and other creatures. I am = wondering if anyone else working in Vietnam has experience with this = type of culturally-dependent taboo, because I know from my experience in =

82. History Department At Binghamton University The Rambo myth relies on demonizing the vietnamese and completely exculpatesthe Americans of any guilt for the damage done to Vietnam. http://history.binghamton.edu/resources/bjoh/mythsvietnam.htm

Binghamton Journal of History Current Issue Back Issues Editorial Board Publication Information The Myths of Vietnam Phyllis Amenda Contending versions of the Vietnam War and the antiwar movement began to develop even before the war ended. The hawks' version, then and now, holds that the war was winnable, but the press, micromanaging civilian game theorists in the Pentagon, and antiwar hippies lost it. . . . The doves' version, contrarily, remains that the war was unwise and unwinnable no matter what strategy was employed or how much firepower was used. . . Both of these versions of the war and the antiwar movement as they have come down to us are better termed myths than versions of history because they function less as explanations of reality than as new justifications of old positions and the emotional investments that attended them (Garfinkle, 7). Pro-war or Anti- war. In the generation alive during the 1960s and 1970s, few, if any, Americans could avoid taking a position on the United States' role in Southeast Asia. As the above quotation from Adam Garfinkle suggests, positions taken in the 1990s, over twenty years after hostilities ended, serve both as an explanation for the U.S. defeat and justification for the positions taken during the war. The hawks' view justifies those who served in Vietnam and appears to give meaning to the deaths of the 58,000 Americans who died there. Those who protested the war or evaded the draft can tell themselves that their actions were justified because the war was immoral, unwinnable and just plain stupid.

83. Mam Non This is a great deal! The collection features myths from Japan, China, Vietnam,Korea, and Tibet; all ideal for an easy introduction to Asian mythology. http://www.mamnon.org/features/books/nine.html

Ages 9-12 When You Were Born In Vietnam Therese Bartlett, William Bartlett (photographer) Great background book for parents-in-process (and family members!). Detailed with information on orphanages and the adoption process, beautiful photographs from across Vietnam. Too long for young children, ideal for ages 10+. Breathtaking. Everybody Cooks Rice (Picture Books) Norah Dooley We follow Carrie throughout her neighborhood as she tries to find her brother and bring him home for dinner. Along the way each neighbor invites her in for a taste of what they are cooking; Vietnamese fried rice, Barbados black-eyed peas and rice, Puerto Rican pigeon peas and rice, Indian biryani, Chinese steamed white rice, Haitian/Creole red beans and rice, and finally Italian risi e bisi. Recipes are included as well as descriptions or background information on each family. A great picture book. Look What We've Brought You from Vietnam : Crafts, Games, Recipes, Stories, and Other Cultural Activities from New Americans Phyllis Shalant, Joanna Roy (illus.) Published in 1988, "Look What We've Brought.." is well-written. There are illustrations of children of all backgrounds learning how to celebrate Tet, Tet Trung Thu, make kites, play O-Lang, make chao (rice porridge) and mooncakes, as well as making a basic water puppet theater. Includes a map of Vietnam, common phrases, and a folktale on monsoon season. Culturally accurate, no mispellings or assumptions.

84. National Review Online (http://www.nationalreview.com) modern age do democratic reforms emerge spontaneously and indigenously (ask the NorthKoreans, Cubans, or North vietnamese). Myth 3 Lies got us into this war http://www.nationalreview.com/script/printpage.asp?ref=/hanson/hanson20040423083

85. The State Of The Field: How Vietnam Is Being Taught Eliot Gruner s Prisoners of Culture Representing the Vietnam POW (1993), a rambling,unfocused deconstructionist attempt to demonstrate the mythology of the http://www.vietnam.ttu.edu/vietnamcenter/events/1996_Symposium/96papers/dunn-vn.

The State of the Field: How Vietnam is Being Taught by Joe P. Dunn Converse College It is clear that the Vietnam War is being taught, either as a major segment or as an entire course, in many hundreds of the over 2000 junior and senior colleges and universities in America. Many campuses have several Vietnam courses taught in different departments. For a time, Vietnam was the hottest growing area of teaching on college campuses. That growth rate seems to have peaked; however, courses on the 1960s and/or the Vietnam War still remain a very popular option for special topics offerings in honors programs or other such venues. More importantly, permanent Vietnam courses are ensconced in the regular curriculum in several disciplines in colleges across the country. Categories and Sources Asianists At present, the state of the field of Vietnam courses in academe falls more or less in three loose categories. First, are the Asianists, students of Asian history, culture, politics, or international relations, etc.often specialists on China, India, Japan, or another Asian area who in many cases became the Vietnam specialist by default. The Asianist approach to the war normally and logically views the conflict from the Vietnamese perspective. The American involvement in Vietnam is treated as merely one stage, and not necessarily the most important one, in the long history and series of conflicts in the country. Most of the Asian-emphasis courses with which I am familiar are quite critical of the American involvement.

86. JOHN WHALEN-BRIDGE, The Myth Of The American Adam oppression have been adapted to American themes, particularly to the myth of the Inone of the Rambo film sequels, the hero tricks vietnamese soldiers into http://www.uni-saarland.de/fak4/fr43/connotations/WHALE523.HTM

c) Connotations N.B. For purposes of citation, page numbers of the printed version are inserted in square brackets. The Myth of the American Adam in Late Mailer JOHN WHALEN-BRIDGE Let us begin with the problem of Adam. Lewis's 1955 study, The American Adam The Unusable Past: Theory and the Study of American Literature Lewis is faulted for being "ahistorical," since his study of the American dialogue pays no attention to nineteenth-century controversies such as the slavery debates. Whether or not we would agree that Lewis is guilty as charged, the literary criticism his seminal work fostered certainly acquired a sharply ahistorical rhetoric one generation later. In Radical Innocence Ihab Hassan discusses some versions of the American Adam as he is reincarnated in an existentialist, alienated, A-bomb afflicted postwar world. Refiguring the opposition between Emerson's "Plain old Adam, the simple genuine self" and "the whole world" against which [page 305] that opposing self was defined, Hassan sees the oppositional nature of the American protagonist as essentially "radical": His innocence . . . is a property of the mythic American self, perhaps of every anarchic Self. It is the innocence of a Self that refuses to accept the immitigable rule of reality, including death, an aboriginal Self the radical imperatives of whose freedom cannot be stifled. (6)

87. Swans' Past Commentaries - Antony Black: Vietnam Retrospective Yet another potent myth revolves around the claim that the postwar Vietnameseplayed some sort of dirty pool with respect to America s missing in action . http://www.swans.com/library/art6/vnam08.html

Swans Vietnam: A Retrospective Myths and Reality by Antony C. Black May 1, 2000 I am of that generation that grew up watching the Vietnam War on television. The first television war. I remember eating my TV dinner and rooting nightly as the body counts for the 'Vietcong' were scored at the top, right-hand side of the screen, and then smoldering indignant as the much lower body counts for the US troops were sorrowfully posted. Not very different, when I reflect upon it, than the way many youngsters reacted to the Gulf War or the war on Yugoslavia, and with about as much grasp on the truth. For the truth about Vietnam is that the United States of America, armed with the most powerful military machine that had ever existed on the face of the Earth, attacked a helpless, peasant society - that sought nothing more than the simple right to national self-determination - and visited upon it a conflagration of such savagery that it left upwards of 4 million of its people dead. Not then content with having left an entire nation in ruins, the military 'losers', agonizing all the while through every cultural medium from press to book to film, ostensibly over the error of their ways but in reality over the error of their failure, vindictively waged a follow-up economic war for the next twenty years to punish the 'winners' for having had the audacity to defend themselves. But this is only part of the fabric of the truth of Vietnam. Woven into the quilt of the mayhem are myths worth addressing.

88. Powell's Books - Used, New, And Out Of Print Used $14.50 Hardcover List Price $24.95 add to wish list, CNN s Tailwind TaleInside Vietnam s Last Great Myth by Jerry Lembcke Publisher Comments In this http://www.powells.com/subsection/MilitaryVietnamWar.25.html

Rare Books Technical Books Kids' Books eBooks ... Middle East Military Multimedia Music Mystery Mythology ... view all sections... Vietnam War There are 1871 books in this aisle. Browse the aisle by Title by Author by Price See recently arrived used books in this aisle. Featured Titles in Military -Vietnam War: Page 25 of 51 next New Trade Paper add to wish list No Peace, No Honor: Nixon, Kissinger, and Betrayal in Vietnam by Larry Berman Publisher Comments On April 30, 1975, when U.S. helicopters pulled the last soldiers out of Saigon, the question lingered: Had American and Vietnamese lives been lost in vain? When the city fell shortly thereafter, the answer was clearly yes. The Agreement on Ending the... read more about this title check for other copies Used Mass Market List Price $6.99 add to wish list Charlie Rangers by John L. Rotundo Publisher Comments They were the biggest Ranger company in Vietnam, and the best. For eighteen months, John L. Rotundo and Don Ericson braved the test of war at its most bloody and most raw, specializing in ambushing the enemy and fighting jungle guerillas using their own... read more about this title check for other copies New Hardcover add to wish list Remember the Alamo: A Sentry Dog Handler's View of Vietnam from the Perimeter of Phan Rang Air Base by Carl S. Adams

89. Vietnam War Comming to grips with the reality of being a Vietnam War Veteran is often complicatedby misinformation, distrust, myth, and a general lack of understanding by http://pw1.netcom.com/~art16/NamVet.html

INFORMATION FOR VETERANS OF THE VIETNAM WAR By Arthur Varanelli art16@ix.netcom.com I maintain this page to share information I have gathered over the INTERNET and from my own personal experience. Comming to grips with the reality of being a Vietnam War Veteran is often complicated by misinformation, distrust, myth, and a general lack of understanding by the veteran, the veteran's family, friends, and associates. Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), a behavioral disorder that can be present with the Vietnam War Veteran in varying degrees, may further complicate relationships, employment, and general well being. The following information, which is in no particular order, is information which I have found valuable. I will add to this page from time to time. ALWAYS remember that this page is only my opinion. Take what you like, leave the rest, but judge no one. Peace From "The Power of Myth" by Joseph Campbell with Bill Moyers, Doubleday, 1988, page 15: "MOYERS:...What are some of the other rituals that are important to society today? CAMPBELL: Joining the army, putting on a uniform, is another. You're giving up your personal life and accepting a socially determined manner of life in the service of the society of which you are a member. This is why I think it is obscene to judge people in terms of civil law for performances that they rendered in time of war. They were acting not as individuals, they were acting as agents of something above them and to which they had by dedication given themselves. To judge them as though they were individual human beings is totally improper."

90. 500 Myth Links http//www.askasia.org/frclasrm/readings/r000061.htm The Power and Relevance ofVietnamese Myths Article written by Nguyen Ngoc Binh for the Asia Society s http://www.mysteries-megasite.com/main/bigsearch/myth-2.html

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91. Left Behind Cawley, Leo. The War About the War Vietnam Films and American Myth in From Hanoi to Hollywood The Vietnam War in American Film. http://xroads.virginia.edu/~MA01/lundy/v/vworkscited.html

Left Behind: Works Cited I. Books and Articles Adair, Gilbert. Vietnam on Film: From the Green Berets to Apocalypse Now . New York: Proteus Publishing Co., Inc., 1981. Auster, Albert and Quart, Leonard. . Westport: Praeger, 1998. Bates, Milton J. The Wars We Took to Vietnam . Berkeley: University of California Press, 1996. Bourdette, Jr., Robert E. "Rereading The Deer Hunter : Michael Cimino's Deliberate American Epic" in America Rediscovered: Critical Essays on Literature and Film of the Vietnam War. New York: Garland Publishing, Inc., 1990. Cawley, Leo. "The War About the War: Vietnam Films and American Myth" in From Hanoi to Hollywood: The Vietnam War in American Film . New Brunswick: Rutgers University Press, 1990. Denton, Jeremiah. When Hell Was In Session. Mobile: Traditional Press, 1982. Edelman, Bernard, ed. Dear America: Letters Home from Vietnam Franklin, H. Bruce. M.I.A. or Mythmaking in America . Lawrence Hill Books, 1992. Gilman, Jr. Owen W. "Vietnam and John Winthrop's Vision of Community" in Fourteen Landing Zones: Approaches to Vietnam Literature . Iowa City: University of Iowa Press, 1991.

92. Vinod's Blog:Iraq = Vietnam? HOWEVER, too many people are simplistic with their conclusions about Vietnam. Themythology that it was a 100% bad idea to simply be there distorted the debate http://www.vinod.com/blog/News/IraqVietnamTheVietnameseh.html

Vinod's Blog Random musings from a libertarian, tech geek... Navigation Home FAQ Book Reviews Essentials ... Contact Me Recent Articles Favorite Blogs ...More... Wednesday, November 19, 2003 07:05 PM Iraq = Vietnam? A GREAT editorial in Opinion Journal about whether Iraq is turning into the next Vietnam: The answer, sadly for the people of Vietnam, is: Fat chance. For all Iraq's many troubles, the Vietnamese should be so lucky as to have the opportunities now before the Iraqis. Vietnam is one place where the great American superpower is entirely unlikely to come clamoring for a rematch in the cause of freedom. For most of the Western world, Vietnam lives on not as a real country inhabited today by 80 million real people, but simply as a sort of eternal shorthand for lost causes, a TV talk show sound bite: "Pick-yer-debacle: The next Vietnam?" ...The fall of Saigon in 1975 was followed by brutal moves to collectivize the south. Hundreds of thousands were forcibly relocated, tens of thousands sent to labor camps. Terror and hunger produced an exodus in which ultimately more than 1.5 million people fled Vietnammany by boat, braving pirates and sharks in the South China Sea. ...Out of 192 countries surveyed earlier this year by New York-based Freedom House, Vietnam ranked among the 16 most repressive regimes.

93. The Crumbling Of Myths: Dwight, T. (1986) Greenfield Hill. sl sn In Hellman, J. American Myth and the Legacyof Vietnam. Hellman, J. (1986) American Myth and the Legacy of Vietnam. http://www.projectorbooth.com/topics/topic.asp?topic=118

94. HS124 03 Seminar Vietnam Fall 1998 TR 230-345 Pm Gallahue Hall 5 Dean, Myth of the Troubled and Scorned Vietnam Veteran Fett et al., Mortalityamong Australian Conscripts 10 McMahon, Casualties of War Katzman, From http://blue.butler.edu/~mmanneri/vietsyl.html

HS124 03 Seminar: Vietnam Fall 1998 TR 2:30-3:45 p.m. Gallahue Hall 203 Dr. Michelle Mannering Office: Jordan Hall 382C Office Hours: Tues.-Thurs., 1:30-2:15 p.m., and by appointment Phone: 940-9268 or 940-9230 (Department of History) Email: mmanneri@butler.edu Web: http://trevor.butler.edu/~mmanneri/ listserv address: hs124_03@listserv.butler.edu I. Texts Robert Divine et al., America: Past and Present. Volume 2, From 1865. 4th ed. New York: HarperCollins, 1995. Graham Greene, The Quiet American. New York: Penguin, 1977. Le Ly Hayslip and Jay Wurts, When Heaven and Earth Changed Places: A Vietnamese Woman's Journey from War to Peace. New York: Plume, 1990. Michael Herr, Dispatches. New York: Vintage, 1977. Gary R. Hess, Vietnam and the United States: Origins and Legacy of War. Twayne's International History Series, no. 7. Boston: Twayne Publishers, 1990. Tim O'Brien, The Things They Carried. New York: Penguin, 1990. Jonathan Shay, Achilles in Vietnam. New York: Simon and Schuster, 1990. Optional: A Pocket Guide to Writing in History. New York: St. Martin's Press, 1998. II. Class Schedule

95. November 11: Remembering Canada's Role In The Vietnam War The idea of Canadian complicity in the Vietnam war was once contrary to the customarymythology that Americans fought and killed in Vietnam while Canadians http://perc.ca/PEN/1992-11/collins2.html

Peace and Environment News * November 1992 November 11: Remembering Canada's Role in the Vietnam War by Robin Collins T he idea of Canadian complicity in the Vietnam war was once contrary to the customary mythology that "Americans fought and killed in Vietnam while Canadians opened their doors to conscientious objectors." But these days, as memories fade and Vietnam war revisionism is buoyed by the end of the Cold War, there are new calls for official government recognition of the estimated 10,000 Canadians who served in Indochina as mercenaries. There has been de facto recognition already as a result of increased visibility of these soldiers at Rememberance Day ceremonies but some want the government to establish monuments to honour Canadian Vietnam war veterans. Is this a good idea? American direct involvement in Vietnam which followed the withdrawal of French colonialism in the mid 1950's and continued until the signing of the Paris Peace Accords in 1973, left 1.7 million dead, 2.7 million wounded and 13 million as refugees. The U.S. military dropped 7.1 million tons of bombs and sprayed 75.5 million litres of defoliant over South Vietnam. Despite the enormity of these numbers, studies indicate that today the average American citizen believes that "only" 100,000 people died in a decade of intervention (close to the same number of Iraqis killed by the U.S. military in the Gulf war in just six weeks.) The perception of a neutral Canada during this period is belied by the fact that Canadian industry supplied $2.47 billion worth of war material to the United States between 1968 and 1973 through Defence Production Sharing Agreements. More than one third of all Canadian defence sales during these years - includinig aircraft parts, shells, and even napalm - were destined for use in Southeast Asia. However, Canadian Prime Minister Lester Pearson declared that the shipment of weapons directly to Vietnam "would be incompatible with our role" as impartial observer in Vietnam. Therefore Canada shipped its weapons and related equipment to the U.S., and from there they made their way to battle in Vietnam. Pearson, a recipient of the Nobel Prize for Peace, stated that "equipment goes into the general inventory of the U.S. armed forces and may be used for such purposes and in such parts of the world as the U.S. government may see fit."

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